I eventually did get the fast/long cultivated bee I was breeding fro, I ended up breeding a second line and waiting until I got a princess and a drone (one from each line) with nocturnal, fast worker, long life and bred them to get the source line, I also bred the other line as I saw no reason not to, more honey production.
Now to work on my imperial and industrial lines and then get the alviary build (14 of the blocks now)
the moral of this story, breed 2 of the same line to get the best results.
I do this often when I play with bees. One line is always my stock line. I keep the original princess and offspring going. I use the extra drones to breed extra princesses into something better. Once I get a princess with the desired traits along with a stable gene pool, this becomes my new stock line, and I breed the drones from this with the original princess until both lines have the new traits, then I go on to the next trait.
One of the tricks I’ve learned is to *not* breed in the long life trait until the very end. Shortest is actually preferred for breeding traits. Shorter life = more generations, more generations = more chances to breed in wanted traits.