Topic: Krapht's "Dev. Blog"

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January 18, 2012 at 7:34 pm #7974
Krapht	I don’t know if this would be interesting for anyone, but I plan to post updates on stuff I’m doing here. If you’re not interested feel free to not read it :-p Also, this is not a “Krapht answers random questions thread”, if you have comments related to what I write, feel free to post them, but I’m going to remove anything that is off-topic and split of discussions to separate threads to keep this one fairly clean. At least that’s the idea, we’ll see how that works out. This is Internet after all So! SMP development is currently more or less on hold. I will implement spacetoads latest hooks in BC to route items around for SSP. Using these are more or less a requirement for logipipes to work in SMP. Also I might end up changing some features of logipipes to make it more suitable for SMP conversion, unfortunatly SMP is not as easy as just adding a couple of lines of code and it will work. I have to redo a lot to make it suitable. But this does not mean that I’m not doing anything. I have reworked internal routing quite a bit to be more suitable for SMP and also for load/save of logistics state and I’m doing a pass on “passive” routing. What I mean by passive is routing that is not “triggered”. So its when normal items enter a logipipe and it decides where to send it. I want more control over this and also introduce a new concept to make stuff more flexible. For now these new features will be separate from the current passive routing of basic logistics pipes, but will take priority. First iteration will not be supporting the current “distribution” model that distributes items. All routing will be based on sending items to the closest compatible receiver. In addition logipipes will have a direction (like wooden pipes) of operation which can be any non-routed (red) exit. For exists with an inventory I’ll most likely ensure that any attached inventory isn’t full. If it is, the pipe will stop accepting new items and any incoming will be sent to another suitable destination. Also I’m planning to add a passive supplier that does not actively requests items, but accepts items up to a certain number, after that it gets sent elsewhere. I might also add an extractor, like a wooden pipe with a built-in redstone engine, however it will be considerable slower than a wooden pipe. I’m thinking 1 item per 10s or so. Possibly slower. Finally I’m thinking to introduce a priority system, haven’t decided if it’s going to be completely custom or just low-mid-high settings Also I want to incorperate more of the trigger/action (gates) features of 3.x to allow world state to affect logipipes and vice versa. I’m also making a new (much much MUCH more simple) mod called “Sneaky Pipes” which will add more (4 so far) new pipes that are not logistical at all, but pipes that I feel I want in my games, but don’t have a place in logipipes. LogisticsPipes will be released for both 2.x and 3.x (1.1 versions only) and SneakyPipes will only be available for 3.x due to feature requirements in BC that wasn’t added until the latest patch.
January 19, 2012 at 5:21 am #8023
pcmaster160	Sneakypipes sounds interesting, care to leak any information on the types of pipes yet? This reply was modified 490 days ago by pcmaster160. This reply was modified 490 days ago by pcmaster160.
January 19, 2012 at 11:21 am #8088
Krapht	Sneakypipe – Secret, only spacetoad knows Sand pipe – Will not connect to anything except pipes, so you can put it next to a furnace or other machine and it will not connect Glass pipe – Does not reduce itemspeed (zero friction), but will cost 1 diamond per 6 pipes Void pipe – Any item entering will be removed from the game. Useful if you’re playing without EE or IC2 and have nowhere to put all that excess cobble your quarry digs up. Making this mod SMP should be a piece of cake compared to logipipes, but since I require BC 3.x it won’t be SMP untill BC is SMP
January 19, 2012 at 11:34 am #8092
immibis	> Sand pipe – Will not connect to anything except pipes, so you can put it next to a furnace or other machine and it will not connect How do you make a pipe out of sand? > Glass pipe – Does not reduce itemspeed (zero friction), but will cost 1 diamond per 6 pipes Gold pipes are much cheaper and you need less… but I guess this is for lazy people? > Void pipe – Any item entering will be removed from the game. Useful if you’re playing without EE or IC2 and have nowhere to put all that excess cobble your quarry digs up. Why not just use lava?
January 19, 2012 at 11:45 am #8094
Duragizer	There will allways be alternatives. Sand pipe out of sand stone not that strange, gold pipe accelerate items and the normal pipes decelerate items, glass will keep the speed the gold pipe give, personally i think this pipe is long overdue. Void pipe is an elegant way to remove unwanted items imho.
January 19, 2012 at 11:49 am #8095
sabriath	> “How do you make a pipe out of sand?” I’m assuming you put 2 sand next to glass like the other recipes….it’s pretty simple and straightforward how to make pipes in minecraft. Oh wait, you mean “realistically speaking”…well, it’s minecraft, how do any of the other pipes make any more sense than sand? I do find a use in the sand pipe that reduces the need for an iron pipe next to a furnace/etc., allowing an LP network to possibly keep connected in tight quarters. > “Gold pipes are much cheaper and you need less… but I guess this is for lazy people?” I feel the same way, it’s a waste of diamond which could be used in making an LP instead. I’m also not understanding the use of a continuous pipe needing 0 friction since the friction reduction is minimal and has a bottom-cap anyway. Make the pipes automatically speed the item to maximum without the need for a redstone torch and I’ll be sold! > “Why not just use lava?” Remember when notch added the ability for lava to burn down your house? Yeah, I can see a use in a void pipe for those who don’t want to risk destruction. This reply was modified 489 days ago by sabriath.
January 19, 2012 at 12:23 pm #8100
immibis	> I’m also not understanding the use of a continuous pipe needing 0 friction since the friction reduction is minimal and has a bottom-cap anyway. It’s like how people spend huge amounts of resources to turn a 20%-loss cable in IC into a zero-loss cable, instead of spending the resources on 25% more generation. > Remember when notch added the ability for lava to burn down your house? > Yeah, I can see a use in a void pipe for those who don’t want to risk destruction. Only if the quarry is inside my house, and my house is made of wood. I rarely make my house out of wood, and I never destroy my house with a quarry.
January 19, 2012 at 12:37 pm #8104
Krapht	The void pipe is really more targeted for future SMP as simply removing the item is much more efficient then having the server create a dropped item, have that item be synced out to players only to be dropped in lava and let the lava destroy it and then have the server sync that. It’s been requested so I added it. Feel free not to use it. I will also add configuration options for all of the pipes to be able to completely disable them in the config. So if you find a pipe useless, simply turn it off and it will be as it never existed and you don’t have to worry about it. For further discussion regarding SneakPipes, please fire up a new thread and I will continue discussion there. This reply was modified 489 days ago by Krapht.
January 20, 2012 at 2:16 am #8213
justatron	So how much longer do we have to wait? I don’t mind waiting though.
January 20, 2012 at 2:19 am #8215
Krapht	I should be able to get a 1.1 version out of both mods this weekend =) Or if you’re refering to SMP, several weeks at least, maybe months depending on how much time I can put into this =) Also, I won’t be able to go SMP untill BC3.x is SMP, and I can’t really start do it before that. I can make some preparations, but in order to test them I need BC SMP. This reply was modified 489 days ago by Krapht.
January 20, 2012 at 2:33 am #8218
Krapht	Was a long day at work today, was on support stand-by while a customer upgraded to the latest version of our software. Got home around half past midnight. Didn’t have much time for modding, but I did manage to build a 1.1 version of SneakyPipes but couldn’t find a 1.1 version of NEI (probably just didn’t look hard enough), but I tested in creative mode on a proper minecraft installation only to discover that for some reason the text in the GUI was waaaay off. Everything else seems to work though. Need to figure that out tomorrow, good night =)
January 20, 2012 at 3:04 am #8219
harley9699	Coooooooooool. Look forward to both sets! You know, hadn’t tried logistics before troubleshooting that purple issue. Was quite impressed.
January 21, 2012 at 3:37 pm #8402
Gimgork	Thre exists allready an 1.1 version of NEI ^^ So looking forward to your update
January 21, 2012 at 9:48 pm #8451
darthvader45	Alright! Cannot wait to hear from you regarding a new release of LogiPipes! Keep it up and don’t let us down!
January 22, 2012 at 3:24 am #8508
DreamSmith	Hiya, Here’s the link to NEI (and Ender chests) http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/909223-110181-smp-chickenbones-mods/